Home The Beale Ciphers have been cracked in with the key. More documentation will be coming soon. Why would Thomas use this spelling of his name by his own hand in the decoded ciphers? Why did he have a dual cipher for Page 2??
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Worth a mention? PageantUpdater , 11 July UTC I too have just read David Baldacci book with similar Interest and note here and there everyone talks of the key document and seeks another documant for the other two cyphers, but where did Beale or anyone suggest there are other key books? It occurs to me that the simple knowing the first letter of the numbered word gives the 2nd cypher meaning, and he never gave the other cypers a key. So common sense says to me it is the same key document just a different lerrer order.
Has anyone tried deciphering using the last or second 3rd etc letters of that same document to give meanings that can be used? There are 3 coded texts, the Will, and several texts used to decode the ciphers. The Will basically is a plain text letter given to 1 or 2 people to be used to locate the ciphers as well as a clue to how to decode the first cipher the Preamble.
In the event that the giver dies, the people who have the Will shall retrieve the ciphers and decode the first cipher using the text that the clue refers to the clue is usually something memorable like "The song we all sang together on the night your brother first went to sea" and each person who has the Will will know what song is being referred to.
The first cipher will lay out what is to be distributed to those who will receive a portion, it is to be shown to all the people listed in the second cipher. The second cipher is decoded using the Will with the words usually intermixed with the key referenced in the clue first word text 1 followed by first word text 2, followed by second word text 1, and so on.
Each person listed in cipher two is to be shown the decoded first cipher. Once shown that so that everyone knows what is to be divvied , each person contributes an individualized written letter or a memorized phrase that was given to them by the creator of the ciphers which is then used in order listed in cipher two to decode cipher three which gives the location of the goods to be divided among all recipients.
The reason for the convoluted nature is to make sure that each person who is to receive something is present to receive their portion no one person can run off with everything without everyone else knowing about it. It was mainly used by some US Southern families who did not trust banks nor lawyers nor individuals in the family to divvy up an inheritance.
This Beale Cipher sounds like it may have been constructed the same way even though the numbering of each cipher seems to be different, cipher 2 should be 1, 3 should be 2, and 1 should be 3. If that is the case, nobody will be able to decode BC 1 without decoding 3 and getting all the texts or phrases that were in the possession of the people listed in it.
And nobody will be able to decode BC 3 without having the original Will-letter. To extract the hidden message, the following 5 modifications must be applied to the original DOI text: 1.
He probably numbered two consecutive words with the same number, or skipped a number, or in the case of 3, skipped 10 numbers , , , , Perhaps go and do some interviews instead? Is there any way to verify this? Toddcarnes talk , 5 February UTC Anyone can take a picture like that and write a webpage up. Believe me or, should I say, Beale-ieve me? I too was skeptical so I followed up on the reference. The site says that the vault was already open and presumably the contents were already removed.
There is a street view but not close enough to the location to be able to view anything. Three images are provided on the website showing the claimed decryption of Beale Cipher 3 by one Daniel Cole, and the plain text. Both are deceased - one in , one in AncientBrit talk , 3 February UTC I researched further by taking the decryption of the third paper that is published on the site and creating a simple worksheet of numbers as used in the document and the letters associated with each number.
There is considerable inconsistency. One would expect each unique number to be associated with a letter so for example the number 18 should always be associated with the same letter, but a given letter may be associated with various numbers and that is not the case. When a tagsort of numbers with letters is performed, so that the numbers are sorted in ascending order and all letters associated with each number are sorted in ascending order, within the first letters examined there are up to six letters associated with the same number.
Barring occasional errors, only one letter should be associated with number Based on this serious discrepancy, I conclude that the site is a hoax. However, that does not mean that the Beale Cipher is a hoax. AncientBrit talk , 5 February UTC Possible Beale cipher 1 solution[ edit ] If you assume that it is a hoax then there must be a "joke" somewhere in it. You can argue about the plus 4 equals L but I think it works. One of the three images of the Beale Ciphers embedded in the article has at least one error.
AncientBrit talk , 3 February UTC "If you assume that it is a hoax then there must be a "joke" somewhere in it. I think the clue is in the "price fifty cents". And I think a useful bit of research would be to find out how many copies the author sold. Does it belong on the page? If so, can someone please provide sources and citations? I am new here, please help let me know if I have made any mistakes in coding if you can assist. The most critical is that it lacks citations to reliable sources.
These are necessary for any sort of contentious information. Then references could be made here to neutral, third-party sources such as newspapers and peer-reviewed journals. I am removing this section for now, until suitable citations are added.
Signatures should not be added to the body of articles. Nick Number talk , 5 April UTC Not to act smart, but if nobody knows to reference my work, and I am the first to discover these facts, and comprise them using my own due dilligence, who am I supposed to reference? You can see the dilema seeing as I am the only known reference to search for this information online at this time Put simply, Wikipedia articles should not contain original research.
You should take your discovery to another venue, such as a newspaper, magazine, or academic journal. Once a neutral reliable source has published the story, that could then be referenced here. Article talk pages should not be used by editors as platforms for their personal views on a subject.
My comment regarding original research was referring to the addition of unsourced material to the Latest Discoveries and Developments in Solving the Riddle section.
As you assuming I am still conversing with GLDNONE mentioned that this material is based upon original research, it should not be added to any articles. It also does not belong on the Talk page, any more than is necessary to discuss its addition to the article. Nick Number talk , 9 April UTC Here is the Link to the new website created for this affair to be discussed, including work on the ciphers and mapping.
Please stop editing my information if I am posting links and other sources for the purpose of getting the addition of these facts and related information out to the board.
We have numerous finds that are pertinent and should be granted the ability to present them here if within the rules. Please see that I am trying to work with Wiki rules and have never used this forum. I believe the information to be involved in the plots.
If you would like to comment here I would be happy to cite references as well from my work to have a more intellectual meeting on the grounds of solving the Beale. I should not be the focus of arguments to erase my work each time, while leaving completely erroneous statements linked above, that clariify little, if any information posted from the Beale. They do exactly the opposite.
I hope you will actually read the information in full through the links posted. There are numerous people who can benefit from this info, and instead of erasing my work, try assisting me as I previously asked? As I stated earlier, you should take your discovery to another venue, such as a newspaper, magazine, or academic journal. Wikipedia is not the place to publish new discoveries. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information.
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When Beale and his party left to go mining and exploring in , he left a strongbox with Morris for safekeeping. No further letters arrived, and neither Beale nor any of his associates was ever heard from again. When Morriss finally opened the strongbox in , he discovered three encoded ciphers. One listed the location of the hidden treasure, one listed its contents, and a third listed the names of the people who had claim to it.
The Lost Treasure of the Beale Ciphers
Background[ edit ] A single pamphlet published in , entitled The Beale Papers, is the only source of this story. The treasure was said to have been obtained by an American named Thomas J. After Beale made multiple trips to stock the hiding place, he then encrypted three messages: the location, a description of the treasure, and the names of its owners and their relatives. The treasure location is traditionally linked to Montvale in Bedford County, Virginia.
Worth a mention? PageantUpdater , 11 July UTC I too have just read David Baldacci book with similar Interest and note here and there everyone talks of the key document and seeks another documant for the other two cyphers, but where did Beale or anyone suggest there are other key books? It occurs to me that the simple knowing the first letter of the numbered word gives the 2nd cypher meaning, and he never gave the other cypers a key. So common sense says to me it is the same key document just a different lerrer order. Has anyone tried deciphering using the last or second 3rd etc letters of that same document to give meanings that can be used? There are 3 coded texts, the Will, and several texts used to decode the ciphers. The Will basically is a plain text letter given to 1 or 2 people to be used to locate the ciphers as well as a clue to how to decode the first cipher the Preamble.
The mysterious codes supposedly gave directions to a treasure buried in a secret location in Bedford County, Va. The cryptic texts have captured the imagination and enthusiasm of avid cryptographers and treasure hunters ever since. However, despite numerous digs and countless attempts to crack the code, two out of the three ciphers remain undeciphered, and no treasure has ever been found. According to the story set out in the pamphlet, an American man by the name of Thomas J. Beale came across a treasure consisting of gold, silver, and jewels in a mine located to the north of Santa Fe. Beale and 30 fellow adventurers transported the hoard to Bedford County, where they buried it in a secure location.